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A Smart Approach – You’re The Voice Episode 42 with Professor Steven Koonin – Watts Up With That?


From You’re The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson

Co-hosted by Tom Nelson & Efrat Fenigson

🎙️ My guest today is Professor Steven Kooninco-organized with Tom Nelson – host of The Tom Nelson Podcast. Professor Koonin is an American theoretical physicist and former director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at NYU, and professor in the Department of Civil and Urban Engineering at NYU School of Engineering. He was previously Chief Scientist of BP’s oil and gas division, served as Under Secretary for Science at the Department of Energy in the Obama administration, and was vice president of Caltech, one of the world’s most prestigious scientific institutions.

Steven is the author of the book “Unsettled: What climate science tells us, what it doesn’t tell us, and why it matters”, in which he argues that while there are some basic facts about climate change that experts agree on, the implications of those facts remain unresolved and mainstream scientific research does not support the notion that there is any kind of climate crisis at all.

This conversation discussed Climate Realism – a healthy approach to “Climate Change” alarmism and the role of the media in shaping public perception. We covered topics such as the use of the term ‘climate denier’, bias in the energy industry, the challenges young scientists face when questioning the climate narrative, the role of journalists in spreading misinformation and the influence of organisations such as the UN and Covering Climate Now. We talked about the viral documentary ‘Climate the Movie’ and attempts at censorship. Finally, we touched on funding dynamics in climate research and geoengineering/chemtrails. Steven stressed the need for open scientific discussion and the importance of caution when considering these interventions. We end with the challenges and optimism of maintaining integrity and speaking the truth in a corrupt world.

“For young scientists, speaking out against the climate narrative can be a career killer” — Professor Steven Koonin

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We talked about:

00:00 Coming soon
01:14 Introduction
03:54 Challenging the term ‘Climate Change Denier’
06:43 “Silent” Climate Discussion
09:03 Impact on those who speak up
10:53 Steven’s Evolution to Climate Realism
16:33 Misrepresentation of facts
21:37 Organizing online propaganda
27:34 Climate – The Movie
32:03 Geotechnical Engineering and Chemtrails
41:10 Red Team, Blue Team
44:33 Dating CO2 in deep ice
45:55 Playing Bongos with Richard Feynman
49:06 Message of hope

What I learned:

  • The term ‘climate change denier’ is offensive and misleading, as skeptics like Steven Koonin base their arguments on scientific evidence.
  • Experience in the energy industry can provide valuable insights into how to effectively change energy systems.
  • Speaking out on climate change can be a career risk for young scientists due to funding and publication challenges.
  • According to Koonin, misinformation in the media is the result of journalists failing to dig deeper and scientists failing to correct misinformation.
  • The UN’s claims of “owning science” and working with Google to control search results demonstrate bias and censorship.
  • Documentary ‘Climate Film‘ faced attempts to cancel it but received widespread attention and support from viewers. It was well received and sparked open discussion about climate change, unlike platforms like Facebook that labeled it as misinformation.
  • Funding dynamics in climate research are discussed, with the observation that adding climate to a project can qualify it for climate-related funding. This raises questions about the integrity of the research and its bias.
  • Geoengineering, such as stratospheric aerosol injection and cloud seeding, is a topic of interest and debate. While it may be technologically feasible to lower global surface temperatures, concerns remain about the unintended side effects and long-term viability of such interventions.
  • A red-team, blue-team approach to climate science is needed to encourage open and rigorous scientific discussion and challenge the consensus, but this approach is not currently supported by the Biden administration.
  • Maintaining integrity and speaking the truth in the face of corruption is challenging, but it is important that scientists present the facts and let people make up their own minds.

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